Never Fall for the Bride's Father

Never Fall for the Bride's Father

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  • Author:Julia Kent
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Reviews

Becky Baldridge

I love an age-gap/silver fox romance。 I'm sure that has a lot to do with my own age-gap romance - or maybe it's just because there's something totally yummy about a silver fox。 Anyway, this one is Katie and Patrick's love story, and I absolutely loved this pair。 Their journey to HEA is sweet, sexy, and, in true Julia Kent form, hilarious。 You can't read this book without laughing, and we can all use some of that。 Needless to say, Never Fall for the Bride's Father is everything I've come to expec I love an age-gap/silver fox romance。 I'm sure that has a lot to do with my own age-gap romance - or maybe it's just because there's something totally yummy about a silver fox。 Anyway, this one is Katie and Patrick's love story, and I absolutely loved this pair。 Their journey to HEA is sweet, sexy, and, in true Julia Kent form, hilarious。 You can't read this book without laughing, and we can all use some of that。 Needless to say, Never Fall for the Bride's Father is everything I've come to expect from Julia Kent。 I thoroughly enjoyed the first Whatever It Takes romance, and this one even more so。 I can't wait for the next in the series, and I'm thinking I may need to visit with this couple again while I wait。 。。。more

Ann

Ms。 Kent, I wanted more of Katie and Patrick。 Does she get to be a mom。 Do they get married? I hope all is revealed in the next book? I absolutely loved this story。 James and that Jon guy are douche$。 Patrick is wonderful。 Katie deserved to find her true love。 Mia is a doll。 I loved how she tried to sell the positives of her dad to Katie。 The speed dating scene was hilarious。 Then the restaurant switch and dump was priceless。

Wendy Livingstone

This is the second book in this incredible series, and this is Patrick and Katie’s story。Katie is co-owner of Wedding Protective INC, who protect wedding, not plan them。 Patrick is an endearing widower, and art dealer, as well as father of the bride。 These two do not have the best of first meetings, due to a misunderstanding, but the sparks fly between them。This is a well written easy to read story, with family, friendships, enemies / lovers, humor, witty banter, misunderstandings, opposites att This is the second book in this incredible series, and this is Patrick and Katie’s story。Katie is co-owner of Wedding Protective INC, who protect wedding, not plan them。 Patrick is an endearing widower, and art dealer, as well as father of the bride。 These two do not have the best of first meetings, due to a misunderstanding, but the sparks fly between them。This is a well written easy to read story, with family, friendships, enemies / lovers, humor, witty banter, misunderstandings, opposites attract, palpable chemistry, romance, emotions, and love, which leads to an entertaining and captivating page turner。I look forward to reading more from this talented author whose work I highly recommend。 。。。more

Amy

This is book 2 of the Whatever It Takes series。 Book 1 is Never Plan a Billionaires Wedding。 Katie is the co-owner of Wedding Protectors Inc。,a company that specializes in protecting weddings, not planning them。 Patrick is the father of the bride and a widower。 Katie and Patrick's first encounter involves an Uber and a rainy day。 The no dating the client/family rule applies, but。。。the sparks/chemistry continues to rises with each meeting。。。。Julia never fails to bring the ROMANCE and LOL to her This is book 2 of the Whatever It Takes series。 Book 1 is Never Plan a Billionaires Wedding。 Katie is the co-owner of Wedding Protectors Inc。,a company that specializes in protecting weddings, not planning them。 Patrick is the father of the bride and a widower。 Katie and Patrick's first encounter involves an Uber and a rainy day。 The no dating the client/family rule applies, but。。。the sparks/chemistry continues to rises with each meeting。。。。Julia never fails to bring the ROMANCE and LOL to her books。 Beware if you read in public, lol !!! 。。。more

Melena

Katie and Patrick don't get off to the best start when he steals her Uber to get to a meeting for his daughter's wedding。 Katie is left angry and stuck in the pouring rain。 What he doesn't realize is his meeting is with Katie and her business partner Kari。 There are certainly sparks between them and they have great banter。 However, she's done with dating older men and relationships that go nowhere, and knows she shouldn't fall for a client's family member。 That doesn't stop real feelings from de Katie and Patrick don't get off to the best start when he steals her Uber to get to a meeting for his daughter's wedding。 Katie is left angry and stuck in the pouring rain。 What he doesn't realize is his meeting is with Katie and her business partner Kari。 There are certainly sparks between them and they have great banter。 However, she's done with dating older men and relationships that go nowhere, and knows she shouldn't fall for a client's family member。 That doesn't stop real feelings from developing as they spend more time together, though。This story has a great blend of humor, romance, and just a little drama。 I have really enjoyed this series so far and this was a great read。Thank you to the author for providing an ARC for an honest review。 。。。more

Melanie Milburn

Julia Kent’s new series, Whatever It Takes, is going strong。 This time it’s Katie Gallagher’s turn for romance。 After years as one of James McCormick’s pieces of “arm candy”, she’s determined to break the cycle of falling for successful older men who throw money at problems, and who don’t appreciate or value her。 When she has a run in with a dashing older Uber thief, she’s even more convinced that she needs to avoid her usual type。Patrick Cooper is a highly respected art authenticator with a ver Julia Kent’s new series, Whatever It Takes, is going strong。 This time it’s Katie Gallagher’s turn for romance。 After years as one of James McCormick’s pieces of “arm candy”, she’s determined to break the cycle of falling for successful older men who throw money at problems, and who don’t appreciate or value her。 When she has a run in with a dashing older Uber thief, she’s even more convinced that she needs to avoid her usual type。Patrick Cooper is a highly respected art authenticator with a very successful company。 A widower, he’s happily looking forward to his only child, Mia’s, wedding。 Worried that he’s going to be late for an important meeting about said wedding, he ends up hijacking a most attractive woman’s Uber。 Although he offers to share, or pay for another, the irate woman refuses。 The last he sees of her is in the pouring rain。 And then he finds her umbrella on the floor of the car。This romance is wonderful! The characters are both likable and relatable。 Even as Patrick starts to open up to the idea moving forward, his frequent silent conversations with his Clemmie as he prepares for their daughter’s wedding are heart warming。 Even as Katie learns more about Patrick as a father and widower, she fights the high voltage attraction she feels for him。 (Sigh) You’re really going to love this one! 。。。more

Sharon in SF

I've fallen for another Julia Kent series。 After her business partner and best friend, Kari found her HEA (Never Plan a Billionaire's Wedding), Katie decides to finally end her "casual", long standing relationship with James McCormick, a much older wealthy man, and a familiar character from the author's Shopping series。 Due to a unfortunate misunderstanding, Katie gets off on the wrong foot when she meets the MMC, Patrick, when he happens to be the father of her new wedding client。 Patrick tries I've fallen for another Julia Kent series。 After her business partner and best friend, Kari found her HEA (Never Plan a Billionaire's Wedding), Katie decides to finally end her "casual", long standing relationship with James McCormick, a much older wealthy man, and a familiar character from the author's Shopping series。 Due to a unfortunate misunderstanding, Katie gets off on the wrong foot when she meets the MMC, Patrick, when he happens to be the father of her new wedding client。 Patrick tries several ways to make amends, but Katie grows more livid with each attempt。 She can't help comparing Patrick to James and is trying to avoid ending up in another non-commited relationship。 At the advice of his daughter, he decides to back off, but fate has other ideas when they continue to cross paths outside of the wedding planning。 I loved Patrick's character and his devotion to his daughter and the memory of his deceased wife。 I LOVED the cameo appearances and cameo mentions of characters from Kent's other series。 Hurray Julia Kent! This was a fun read with emotional memories of the past blending with the present。 。。。more

Isha Coleman

Kent finds an endearing way to break a heart and then tenderly piece it back together。 Never Fall for the Bride's Father doesn't hold back on personality。 From the emotional upheaval to the sweetness of romance, Patrick and Katie are a breath of fresh air that will bring on the waterworks while invoking more than a few smiles。 Kent finds an endearing way to break a heart and then tenderly piece it back together。 Never Fall for the Bride's Father doesn't hold back on personality。 From the emotional upheaval to the sweetness of romance, Patrick and Katie are a breath of fresh air that will bring on the waterworks while invoking more than a few smiles。 。。。more

Pamela

I read the first book in this new series by Julia Kent and could not wait to read this next book。 This book hooked me in the first chapter as all of her books do! Katie owns with her partner a wedding protection company。 She is on her way to meet a client in the pouring rain, when her Uber arrives and as she is getting ready to get in it a man is doing the same and ends up taking her ride。 She is furious, wet and very unhappy when she arrives at such meeting。 Meeting Mia, her client, who introdu I read the first book in this new series by Julia Kent and could not wait to read this next book。 This book hooked me in the first chapter as all of her books do! Katie owns with her partner a wedding protection company。 She is on her way to meet a client in the pouring rain, when her Uber arrives and as she is getting ready to get in it a man is doing the same and ends up taking her ride。 She is furious, wet and very unhappy when she arrives at such meeting。 Meeting Mia, her client, who introduces her father, Patrick, the Uber stealing man and a widower, she composes herself to give the best of what she does to her client。 Despite a rough meeting Patrick is drawn to Katie and Katie not so much and he is the bride's father along with her romantic life hasn't been good。 We have some funny scenes that will make you laugh out loud and swoony scenes that have you saying aww。 As I kept reading I kept thinking will Katie and Patrick get together, cause they have chemistry, will Katie get the romantic relationship she wants but most of all will she get her happily ever after。 This book has all I look for in a book and I can not wait to see what comes next in this series。 。。。more

Sissy's Romance Book Review

Never Fall for the Bride's Father by Julia Kent is book Two in Whatever It Takes Series。 This is the story of Patrick Cooper and Katie Gallagher。 Katie is one of the owners of Wedding Protectors Inc and has been very successful in business but not in love。 When Katie ends up meeting Patrick things go totally wrong。 Patrick is a widower and the father of the bride。 Enjoyed this book。 Never Fall for the Bride's Father by Julia Kent is book Two in Whatever It Takes Series。 This is the story of Patrick Cooper and Katie Gallagher。 Katie is one of the owners of Wedding Protectors Inc and has been very successful in business but not in love。 When Katie ends up meeting Patrick things go totally wrong。 Patrick is a widower and the father of the bride。 Enjoyed this book。 。。。more

Bibliophile Chloe

Oh how I flove a new story from the talented and quirky mind of Julia Kent。I am so loving this new series, I love being introduced to new characters and seeing beloved past characters making cameos。This is the story of Katie and Patrick。 As a vintage gal myself, I love the premise that no matter what your age, you can still have smexy times, you can still feel the promise of a new love and you can still live。Kate and Patrick's meet-cute is one for the record books! I absolutely loved it and laug Oh how I flove a new story from the talented and quirky mind of Julia Kent。I am so loving this new series, I love being introduced to new characters and seeing beloved past characters making cameos。This is the story of Katie and Patrick。 As a vintage gal myself, I love the premise that no matter what your age, you can still have smexy times, you can still feel the promise of a new love and you can still live。Kate and Patrick's meet-cute is one for the record books! I absolutely loved it and laughed quite hard。Kate is a girl boss, even when her personal life is bit of a sh*t-storm。 She has a type and she wants to try to break it, but when the silver fox that is Patrick comes into her world。 Well, hold tight。Patrick is all the good things you want in a hero, he is swoony and I love his naiveté when it comes to the world and his daughter。As with all of Ms。 Kent’s stories, you get heart, heat, and hilarity in a beautiful backdrop of the art world。 。。。more

Jamie Speck

I really liked this story。 As we grow older, age doesn't seem to be as big a deal。 It was great to see her contrast dating a much older James and then her meeting a younger Patrick。 And as always, we have crazy laugh out loud things like stealing an Uber in a massive rain storm。 I am really like this series and can't wait to see what comes next!! I really liked this story。 As we grow older, age doesn't seem to be as big a deal。 It was great to see her contrast dating a much older James and then her meeting a younger Patrick。 And as always, we have crazy laugh out loud things like stealing an Uber in a massive rain storm。 I am really like this series and can't wait to see what comes next!! 。。。more

Linda Dossett

So much fun, laughs and emotion are wrapped up in this newest book by Julia Kent。 I admit to some trepidation with Patrick and Katie’s mostly “off” relationship, they start out with an epic misnomer, move through and reconcile, only to run into emotional obstacles。 There are many truly beautiful written sentiments here。 Well written and fun, do not miss this one。

Tiffany Readz

Cute May-December RomanceIn Never Fall for the Bride’s Father, Julia Kent introduces readers to Katie and Patrick。 He is a sweet widower, and she is one of the owners of Wedding Protectors Inc。 No, they don’t plan the weddings, they are there to make sure the wedding goes off without a hitch。 Something I’ve never really heard of and found interesting。From the start I liked both characters。 Patrick was so sweet and scared of falling for somebody new, while Katie was all business and was darn good Cute May-December RomanceIn Never Fall for the Bride’s Father, Julia Kent introduces readers to Katie and Patrick。 He is a sweet widower, and she is one of the owners of Wedding Protectors Inc。 No, they don’t plan the weddings, they are there to make sure the wedding goes off without a hitch。 Something I’ve never really heard of and found interesting。From the start I liked both characters。 Patrick was so sweet and scared of falling for somebody new, while Katie was all business and was darn good at it。 With a horrible first meeting, the rest of the book was how they were going to right the ship with so much wrong surrounding them。 I felt for Katie as she wanted to be as professional as possible, however didn’t want to let a catch like Patrick slip through her fingers。The book is well written and is quite a mixture of love and chaos all the way around。 Along with Patrick and Katie, we met the employees of Wedding Protectors Inc, as well as Patrick’s daughter Mia, the bride to be。 This is a low steam and low angst read and as a second book, does well as a standalone with a little epilogue。 Reviewed for Renee Entress’s Blog 。。。more

Jackie Wright

After reading the first book in Julia Kent’s newest series I was excited for Never Fall For The Brides Father ( Whatever It Takes #2) and I wasn’t disappointed。 Katie Gallagher and father of the bride, Patrick Cooper was everything I have come to expect from this very talented author。I knew from the first few pages that I was reading something special but it was only when the characters and the smile on my face stayed with me long after reading the final word that I realised just how special thi After reading the first book in Julia Kent’s newest series I was excited for Never Fall For The Brides Father ( Whatever It Takes #2) and I wasn’t disappointed。 Katie Gallagher and father of the bride, Patrick Cooper was everything I have come to expect from this very talented author。I knew from the first few pages that I was reading something special but it was only when the characters and the smile on my face stayed with me long after reading the final word that I realised just how special this read is。 I laughed, I swooned and giggled a lot as I got to know this couple and I highly recommend this book to all romance lovers。 Never Fall For The Brides Father has all the feels and it certainly ticked all my boxes。 Looking forward for what’s to come in this wonderful series。 。。。more

Kristen Holmes

This series is another hit!! Julia has hit it out of the park。 Must read :)

Heather

This is a good age gap read。 There's plenty of emotion as well as some humor。 I loved Katie and Patrick's first meeting。 Patrick is fun but still serious。 Katie is the kind of female lead I enjoy- strong yet caring。 I liked the storyline too。 Overall a good book。 This is a good age gap read。 There's plenty of emotion as well as some humor。 I loved Katie and Patrick's first meeting。 Patrick is fun but still serious。 Katie is the kind of female lead I enjoy- strong yet caring。 I liked the storyline too。 Overall a good book。 。。。more

Payton Box

This was the first sweet romance I've read with an age gap and I liked it! Katie and Patrick had a lot of chemistry and I liked the timeline of their romance along with all the bumps and turns that happened! Patrick's relationship with his daughter was so sweet and I loved how they connected over him dating again rather than her freaking out。 I also loved Katie's respect for the love of his first wife, it was a very adult mature way to handle any negative feelings! I'm so glad we finally got to This was the first sweet romance I've read with an age gap and I liked it! Katie and Patrick had a lot of chemistry and I liked the timeline of their romance along with all the bumps and turns that happened! Patrick's relationship with his daughter was so sweet and I loved how they connected over him dating again rather than her freaking out。 I also loved Katie's respect for the love of his first wife, it was a very adult mature way to handle any negative feelings! I'm so glad we finally got to see Katie's happily ever after especially once she broke up with James! 。。。more

Erin Lewis

5 Star Review Never Fall For The Bride’s Father (Whatever It Takes #2) by Julia KentHaving read the first book in Julia Kent’s latest Whatever It Takes series I could not wait to read Never Fall For The Bride’s Father。 From the first chapter I was drawn into the story that Ms。 Kent wove about Katie Gallagher and father of the bride, Patrick Cooper。If there is one thing I know when I read a book by this author, I know I am in for an entertaining read that will have me laughing out loud on occasio 5 Star Review Never Fall For The Bride’s Father (Whatever It Takes #2) by Julia KentHaving read the first book in Julia Kent’s latest Whatever It Takes series I could not wait to read Never Fall For The Bride’s Father。 From the first chapter I was drawn into the story that Ms。 Kent wove about Katie Gallagher and father of the bride, Patrick Cooper。If there is one thing I know when I read a book by this author, I know I am in for an entertaining read that will have me laughing out loud on occasion。 This was a well written, at times hilarious, yet emotional story that ticked all the boxes for me。 I knew from the first moment we met Katie that the man that captured her heart would need to be someone special and that is certainly Patrick。From the moment Patrick and Katie met I knew their story was going to be special and it was。 We all know how good Ms。 Kent is at humor but she really captured the emotions of loss in such a way that was realistic as well as respectful。So glad to finally see the back of James, as I am not a huge fan。 This is one of my favorite books from Julia Kent and that is saying something。 。。。more

Stephanie Villere

Never Fall for the Bride’s Father, book 2 of the Whatever It Takes series written by Julia Kent。 Ms Kent is one of my very favorite authors for very good reason! We always get an original and entertaining book with enough craziness and sexiness in it to make it all stick together and keep us from wanting to put it down! This series about the Wedding Protectors is lots of fun and this book gives us a little out of the norm leading man…。 He isn’t a spring chicken but he is young enough to be worth Never Fall for the Bride’s Father, book 2 of the Whatever It Takes series written by Julia Kent。 Ms Kent is one of my very favorite authors for very good reason! We always get an original and entertaining book with enough craziness and sexiness in it to make it all stick together and keep us from wanting to put it down! This series about the Wedding Protectors is lots of fun and this book gives us a little out of the norm leading man…。 He isn’t a spring chicken but he is young enough to be worth it! Let’s see how long they can keep their hands or lips off each other! Can someone call me an Uber please? I want to see if mine comes with a hot guy in it! 。。。more

Kristen Lewendon

This was an emotional roller-coaster。 From deep introspective moments about the nature of love and loss, to howling with laughter over the situations only the Wedding Protectors crew could get tangled up in, this book had my emotions on a yo-yo string。 I loved Katie from the moment we were introduced to her in the previous book。 Getting to know her in this one, only made that love deeper。 Patrick was so endearingly clueless, I just wanted to hug the stuffing out of him。 And the family and friend This was an emotional roller-coaster。 From deep introspective moments about the nature of love and loss, to howling with laughter over the situations only the Wedding Protectors crew could get tangled up in, this book had my emotions on a yo-yo string。 I loved Katie from the moment we were introduced to her in the previous book。 Getting to know her in this one, only made that love deeper。 Patrick was so endearingly clueless, I just wanted to hug the stuffing out of him。 And the family and friends around them provided some of the best comedic gold I’ve ever read。 I’ve quickly become a devoted fan of this series and I can’t wait to discover where the next book will take us。I received a complimentary advance copy of this book from the author。 。。。more

Didi Ps

Katie is the best at wedding planning。。。 specifically, she’s the best at avoiding the worst wedding disasters, since she’s always prepared & ready for anything。 Despite being great at helping other people avoid disasters, the first time she meets Patrick, it’s a disaster for many reasons。。。Patrick is a widowed art dealer, & despite a weird first meeting (of course it’s a weird first meeting。。。 this is a Julia Kent book after all!), & they end up spending time together, which could cause a bit of Katie is the best at wedding planning。。。 specifically, she’s the best at avoiding the worst wedding disasters, since she’s always prepared & ready for anything。 Despite being great at helping other people avoid disasters, the first time she meets Patrick, it’s a disaster for many reasons。。。Patrick is a widowed art dealer, & despite a weird first meeting (of course it’s a weird first meeting。。。 this is a Julia Kent book after all!), & they end up spending time together, which could cause a bit of problems, considering how he’s the father of the bride she’s in charge of helping。“Did I leave something at your place?”“An empty space。”*swoon* (+ same conversation, just a few minutes later)“Come back to my place。 Please。 (。。。) I can show you some real beauty in the bedroom。”*wowza*Another great book by Julia Kent, who doesn’t disappoint。。。 Worth reading。 <3I received this free ARC, and this is my honest review。 。。。more

BookAddict

Katie Gallagher is the person to go to if you want your wedding to go off without a hitch。 She's used her wedding-protection skills on behalf of rock stars, A-listers, princes, high society, and political leaders。 Her own romantic life, however, needs a relationship protector。 She gravitates towards older, powerful, affluent men, but she's finally had enough of being relegated to arm candy。 She wants the true love she protects for her clients, so she's now looking for a different kind of man。On Katie Gallagher is the person to go to if you want your wedding to go off without a hitch。 She's used her wedding-protection skills on behalf of rock stars, A-listers, princes, high society, and political leaders。 Her own romantic life, however, needs a relationship protector。 She gravitates towards older, powerful, affluent men, but she's finally had enough of being relegated to arm candy。 She wants the true love she protects for her clients, so she's now looking for a different kind of man。On the way to a client meeting, Katie and Patrick have whatever is the opposite of a meet-cute and get off on whatever is worse than the wrong foot。 Setting aside everything that went catastrophically wrong, Katie behaves professionally, mostly。 Patrick Cooper is the bride’s father, so Katie will keep a professional distance and interact with Patrick only as much as the wedding planning requires。Can we please talk about Patrick? Father of the bride, self-made man, highly specialized skillset, widely respected, mature man, and widower of three years。 But when he meets Katie? This suave, sophisticated, man-about-town turns into a bumbling middle-school boy trying to ask the pretty girl to the eight-grade dance。 The more he tries, the worse he makes things, and he's so freaking endearing in the process! I was cheering him on hoping that even if he couldn’t get it right Katie would see through to his beautiful heart。 Oh my stars y'all, this one is an entertaining, phenomenal read from the first page to the last。 Katie and Patrick are so relatable, and their budding romance is charming and authentic。 I devoured this in one sitting and hated for it to end。 As romcoms go, this delightful, humorous, heartfelt story is one of my all-time favorites。 Start reading this one right away, and let Katie and Patrick run away with your heart。 。。。more

Alicia

I couldn't put this fabulous book down。 Having looked forward to the feisty Katie's story, I was delighted to discover a tale of warmth, heart, and emotions that ran true。 Her meeting with Patrick is epic! I felt Katie's frustration and irritation jumping off the page, while sensing Patrick's well meaning bungling of the situation, all while seeing the hilarity building。 This book has been a different experience from other books by the masterful Julia Kent。 She captures the emotions of loss, and I couldn't put this fabulous book down。 Having looked forward to the feisty Katie's story, I was delighted to discover a tale of warmth, heart, and emotions that ran true。 Her meeting with Patrick is epic! I felt Katie's frustration and irritation jumping off the page, while sensing Patrick's well meaning bungling of the situation, all while seeing the hilarity building。 This book has been a different experience from other books by the masterful Julia Kent。 She captures the emotions of loss, and portays them with such sincerity, which, for me particularly, meant a lot。 Katie's anxieties over falling into a repeat pattern rang true。 Oh, to see the back of James!! There is so much to love about this book。 There is much laughter, sincerity of feelings and hope。 Something which should never be underestimated。 I loved every word 💖💖💖💖💖 。。。more

Sue Ouellet-Cofsky

I absolutely love a great age gap story。 Even better still when it's a rom com。 My biggest fear with this one was Katie ending up with HE who shall not be named lol。 After many Shopping stories, you would think that I'd soften towards James but。。。not happening。 In any case。 I loved the meet-cute that wasn't really a meet-cute。 There were, as always, some truly hilarious moments but there were also some deeper, serious, soul searching moments for both Katie and Patrick。 When things can go wrong i I absolutely love a great age gap story。 Even better still when it's a rom com。 My biggest fear with this one was Katie ending up with HE who shall not be named lol。 After many Shopping stories, you would think that I'd soften towards James but。。。not happening。 In any case。 I loved the meet-cute that wasn't really a meet-cute。 There were, as always, some truly hilarious moments but there were also some deeper, serious, soul searching moments for both Katie and Patrick。 When things can go wrong in a wedding, Wedding Protectors are there to help, but what happens when the things that go wrong are their fault。 。。。more